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		<title>By: Nicola, UK Bournemouth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicola, UK Bournemouth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 22:32:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely! Brave has nothing to do with it!

I have had my first and second baby, at home in water. The choice wasn&#039;t anything to do with hippy-out-there-stuff. I knew it was the best choice all round for my babies. (afterall the hospitals are still there for a home birthing family)

I knew that having my babies at home wasn&#039;t just about me being able to walk about freely, eat and drink what I liked (I had some wine I have to admit!), play my own music, use my own bathroom, and get snuddled up into my own bed afterwards; it WAS part of the bonus of it, but more so, all about incresing the saftly for my self and my babies. 

My local hospital has a culture of c-sections (29%) - which, to there credit, they are actively trying to tackle. They also have timelines for Prims and multis (2 hours established labour for first time mothers and 1 hour for second/subsequent births - as per NICE guidelines) which, with there culture of emergent interventulist outlook, does not bode well, when the largest reason for c-sections is &quot;failure to progress&quot; which I really think should be &quot;failure to wait!&quot;

I had the Rolls Royce, gold standard of care from the highly trained professional widwives who attended my birth. (1 to 1 care is what any hospital is striving to acheive) There were at least 2 of them which each birth and they NEVER left me, not for a second. And in doing so they knew me, my baby and my labour - they had no need to do vaginal exams because they had to attend another women or answer the phone, and then have to come back &quot;to see how we are doing&quot; They listened. They observed. They offered encourgement and support - medically and personally.

Birth is something that you will remember vividly for the rest of your life..so I only hope that all women (literally) get off there arses and reclaim their birth.

Bravo - for your poinent words
xxx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely! Brave has nothing to do with it!</p>
<p>I have had my first and second baby, at home in water. The choice wasn&#8217;t anything to do with hippy-out-there-stuff. I knew it was the best choice all round for my babies. (afterall the hospitals are still there for a home birthing family)</p>
<p>I knew that having my babies at home wasn&#8217;t just about me being able to walk about freely, eat and drink what I liked (I had some wine I have to admit!), play my own music, use my own bathroom, and get snuddled up into my own bed afterwards; it WAS part of the bonus of it, but more so, all about incresing the saftly for my self and my babies. </p>
<p>My local hospital has a culture of c-sections (29%) &#8211; which, to there credit, they are actively trying to tackle. They also have timelines for Prims and multis (2 hours established labour for first time mothers and 1 hour for second/subsequent births &#8211; as per NICE guidelines) which, with there culture of emergent interventulist outlook, does not bode well, when the largest reason for c-sections is &#8220;failure to progress&#8221; which I really think should be &#8220;failure to wait!&#8221;</p>
<p>I had the Rolls Royce, gold standard of care from the highly trained professional widwives who attended my birth. (1 to 1 care is what any hospital is striving to acheive) There were at least 2 of them which each birth and they NEVER left me, not for a second. And in doing so they knew me, my baby and my labour &#8211; they had no need to do vaginal exams because they had to attend another women or answer the phone, and then have to come back &#8220;to see how we are doing&#8221; They listened. They observed. They offered encourgement and support &#8211; medically and personally.</p>
<p>Birth is something that you will remember vividly for the rest of your life..so I only hope that all women (literally) get off there arses and reclaim their birth.</p>
<p>Bravo &#8211; for your poinent words<br />
xxx</p>
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		<title>By: Home Birthers &#38; Hopefuls! - Page 1118 - BabyandBump</title>
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		<dc:creator>Home Birthers &#38; Hopefuls! - Page 1118 - BabyandBump</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2012 18:16:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] know what you&#039;re saying but there is really nothing brave about giving birth at home be it our first or thirteenth child.  Some would say it&#039;s brave giving birth in hospital given the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] know what you&#039;re saying but there is really nothing brave about giving birth at home be it our first or thirteenth child.  Some would say it&#039;s brave giving birth in hospital given the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Birth Wars</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Birth Wars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 01:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I also got lots of &#8220;wow, you are so BRAVE!&#8221; and I thought that was interesting too. I didn&#8217;t feel that I had an extra amount of courage than the average woman. I didn&#8217;t feel like I had special powers that others did not. This is another article I like, titled Home Birth: Brave Has Nothing To Do With It. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I also got lots of &#8220;wow, you are so BRAVE!&#8221; and I thought that was interesting too. I didn&#8217;t feel that I had an extra amount of courage than the average woman. I didn&#8217;t feel like I had special powers that others did not. This is another article I like, titled Home Birth: Brave Has Nothing To Do With It. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sandi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jul 2011 02:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Emily, I felt the same way: cheated by those that championed natural birth.  I gave birth to our son at home 9 months ago, and it was horrible.  Most excruciating, agonizing time of my life.  I was not prepared well.  People had me looking forward to some &quot;blissful&quot;  &quot;empowering&quot; experience.  Empowering?  I felt like I had been hit by a bus.  I lost almost 2 liters of blood.  I couldnt walk without pain for almost 8 months due to tearing.  I really feel like the Natural birth community does not adequately prepare mothers for what may be coming there way.  They dont talk enough about pain, about terrible pain, about despaire, about the shock that can cause if you&#039;ve only been expecting &quot;hard work&quot; or &quot;doable pain.&quot;  I feel very lied to and confused.  how could the natural birth community let that happen to me?  How could they still be smiling at me saying &quot;yay!  you did it!&quot;  I feel terrible.  I believe int eh natural birth benefits for my baby.  But good recovery?  empowering feeling?  feeling in control?  Enjoying the birth?  Nope.  Not one of them came my way.  Sad . . .:(  I&#039;m sad. and confused.  very confused.  Dont understand you all.  I want another natural birth for my baby, but I would like to enjoy giving birth, not feel so shell shocked afterwards.  I wish more women had been more honest with me about what was coming.  I feel like sugar coating birth is one of the greatest disservices to women.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Emily, I felt the same way: cheated by those that championed natural birth.  I gave birth to our son at home 9 months ago, and it was horrible.  Most excruciating, agonizing time of my life.  I was not prepared well.  People had me looking forward to some &#8220;blissful&#8221;  &#8220;empowering&#8221; experience.  Empowering?  I felt like I had been hit by a bus.  I lost almost 2 liters of blood.  I couldnt walk without pain for almost 8 months due to tearing.  I really feel like the Natural birth community does not adequately prepare mothers for what may be coming there way.  They dont talk enough about pain, about terrible pain, about despaire, about the shock that can cause if you&#8217;ve only been expecting &#8220;hard work&#8221; or &#8220;doable pain.&#8221;  I feel very lied to and confused.  how could the natural birth community let that happen to me?  How could they still be smiling at me saying &#8220;yay!  you did it!&#8221;  I feel terrible.  I believe int eh natural birth benefits for my baby.  But good recovery?  empowering feeling?  feeling in control?  Enjoying the birth?  Nope.  Not one of them came my way.  Sad . . .:(  I&#8217;m sad. and confused.  very confused.  Dont understand you all.  I want another natural birth for my baby, but I would like to enjoy giving birth, not feel so shell shocked afterwards.  I wish more women had been more honest with me about what was coming.  I feel like sugar coating birth is one of the greatest disservices to women.</p>
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		<title>By: Emma</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jun 2011 16:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, I see the facts that you have given and assume that they are completely valid.  But, I think the biggest thing I&#039;m dealing with in your article is that regardless of where you have your baby, its the fact that a midwife is with you instead of a standard hospital doctor that seems to be making the difference.

As for the pain meds, c-section decision, forceps, etc - Can you not ask your midwife (or even doctor from a hospital) to NOT use these based on your decision?  In which case being at a hospital may be better in case of an &#039;emergent-situation&#039;?

I am trying not to sound defensive, mean, critical etc but am trying to get the full understanding.

I get that being at home may be more comfortable, but what about the question of &#039;what if&#039;?  What if something critical were to happen at home that could be easier to fix at a hospital?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, I see the facts that you have given and assume that they are completely valid.  But, I think the biggest thing I&#8217;m dealing with in your article is that regardless of where you have your baby, its the fact that a midwife is with you instead of a standard hospital doctor that seems to be making the difference.</p>
<p>As for the pain meds, c-section decision, forceps, etc &#8211; Can you not ask your midwife (or even doctor from a hospital) to NOT use these based on your decision?  In which case being at a hospital may be better in case of an &#8216;emergent-situation&#8217;?</p>
<p>I am trying not to sound defensive, mean, critical etc but am trying to get the full understanding.</p>
<p>I get that being at home may be more comfortable, but what about the question of &#8216;what if&#8217;?  What if something critical were to happen at home that could be easier to fix at a hospital?</p>
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		<title>By: Joyanna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joyanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jun 2011 16:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right on! Thank you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right on! Thank you!</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 May 2011 06:39:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Emily, There are ways to find a middle ground like you are describing.  One is a great birth center.  Another is giving birth with a midwife in a hotel room next to a hospital.  :-)
Great article btw!!!

&quot;&quot;&quot;Emily
April 7, 2010 at 12:55 am
I struggle with the polarization of the two “sides”-those for home birth and those for hospital birth. For me, they both seemed too radical. I wanted to be able to have a natural, home birth like atmosphere with the best medical interventions available next door if needed. If it exists in my area, I couldn’t find it. In the end I had a natural birth at the hospital. It was the most excruciatingly brutal experience and I had horrible complications afterwards. I felt cheated by those (Ricki Lake, anyone) who championed natural birth and also questioned whether my natural birth was horrible because I was in a hospital. I long for the day that there are more than the two choices–radically natural and radically medical–but I fear it will not be in time for my next birth experience.&quot;&quot;&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Emily, There are ways to find a middle ground like you are describing.  One is a great birth center.  Another is giving birth with a midwife in a hotel room next to a hospital.  <img src='http://bringbirthhome.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Great article btw!!!</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8221;"Emily<br />
April 7, 2010 at 12:55 am<br />
I struggle with the polarization of the two “sides”-those for home birth and those for hospital birth. For me, they both seemed too radical. I wanted to be able to have a natural, home birth like atmosphere with the best medical interventions available next door if needed. If it exists in my area, I couldn’t find it. In the end I had a natural birth at the hospital. It was the most excruciatingly brutal experience and I had horrible complications afterwards. I felt cheated by those (Ricki Lake, anyone) who championed natural birth and also questioned whether my natural birth was horrible because I was in a hospital. I long for the day that there are more than the two choices–radically natural and radically medical–but I fear it will not be in time for my next birth experience.&#8221;"&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Navigating the BBH Blog - A Road Map &#124; Bring Birth Home</title>
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		<dc:creator>Navigating the BBH Blog - A Road Map &#124; Bring Birth Home</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 16:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Home Birth &#8211; Brave Has Nothing To Do With It - a guest post [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Chelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2010 18:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m so glad I was in the hospital because... my appendix was on its way out, my gallbladder was overflowing with stones and my pancreas was infected and my temperature was up to 104 degrees and I was covered in hives. At that point, the first thing that needed to be &quot;fixed&quot; was my being pregnant and successful induction was priority #1 (a c/s would have set back my surgery by at least a week and that wasn&#039;t acceptable). I guess I am in that 10% who actually had a medically necessary induction but it still makes me sensitive on the topic. Not every induction is an act of pure evil.

Assuming that a mother who chooses a hospital birth has not done her research is just as wrong as someone assuming that your choice to homebirth was brave.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m so glad I was in the hospital because&#8230; my appendix was on its way out, my gallbladder was overflowing with stones and my pancreas was infected and my temperature was up to 104 degrees and I was covered in hives. At that point, the first thing that needed to be &#8220;fixed&#8221; was my being pregnant and successful induction was priority #1 (a c/s would have set back my surgery by at least a week and that wasn&#8217;t acceptable). I guess I am in that 10% who actually had a medically necessary induction but it still makes me sensitive on the topic. Not every induction is an act of pure evil.</p>
<p>Assuming that a mother who chooses a hospital birth has not done her research is just as wrong as someone assuming that your choice to homebirth was brave.</p>
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		<title>By: Preparing for Natural Hospital Birth vs. Home Birth &#124; Bring Birth Home</title>
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		<dc:creator>Preparing for Natural Hospital Birth vs. Home Birth &#124; Bring Birth Home</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2010 16:04:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] A common comment, (sometimes a broken record) those planning on giving birth at home, or have birthed at home, hear is &#8220;you&#8217;re so brave!&#8221; [...]</description>
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